jonty_11
07-11 12:16 PM
Now all those who have just become current...its lottery.!!!!
See if you hit the jackpot by Aug End.
See if you hit the jackpot by Aug End.
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bestofall
07-16 10:26 AM
here is my plegde at 2000$ Target
Immigration Voice
Immigration Voice $ 5.00 07/22/08 7YHX2-KTYKJ
Thanks
BestOfAll
EB2 March 2005 India
July 2 2007 485 Applied
Immigration Voice
Immigration Voice $ 5.00 07/22/08 7YHX2-KTYKJ
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BestOfAll
EB2 March 2005 India
July 2 2007 485 Applied
aj_jadeja
03-09 10:12 AM
open real player. and open this URL.
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manderson
01-07 03:00 PM
My wife is still waiting for the AP. The receipt notice gives August 6 as the receipt date. She called USCIS last Tuesday and was told that USCIS is running really slow and is taking 180 days to process APs. The lady she spoke to asked my wife to call back after "it is 180 days past her notice date". Her 180 days will complete on February 6. We have postponed out travel plans several times.
is this NSC or TSC?
is this NSC or TSC?
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cheg
07-23 04:00 PM
Thanks for the quick reply. So in my case since my husband doesn't have a RD yet for our I-485 then once we do get our RD, we can calculate that 2 yrs from that time we'll have our card ordered as well. :D :D :D I'm crossing my fingers!
my PD Aug 2004
RD Feb 2005
eb3 india
Last fingerprint in March 2007
my PD Aug 2004
RD Feb 2005
eb3 india
Last fingerprint in March 2007
anna
11-06 05:45 AM
can u please tell me where did u read it jeniya?
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thomachan72
12-15 01:02 PM
Excellent idea Michael Chertoff but let us wait till the nest summer:D:D
Next summer.
Next summer.
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pointlesswait
03-09 11:44 AM
dude....what does USCIS look like to you : Drive thru Taco Bell?..
For Eb2 india and china dates will be like this in April 2009 bulletin.
Eb2 India : Feb 2005
China : Feb 2006
May 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2005
China : May 2006
June 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Sep 2005
China : Sep 2006
July 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Feb 2006
China : Feb 2007
August 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2007
China : May 2008
For Eb2 india and china dates will be like this in April 2009 bulletin.
Eb2 India : Feb 2005
China : Feb 2006
May 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2005
China : May 2006
June 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Sep 2005
China : Sep 2006
July 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : Feb 2006
China : Feb 2007
August 2009 bulletin
Eb2 India : May 2007
China : May 2008
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gccube
07-18 02:59 PM
Donot they limit to the apps with current PD. So if some one with PD 2001 Jan filed on July 15th 2007, he would not get his visa no until all the other guys filed with much later PDs got their GCs?
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Macaca
09-14 08:57 PM
A Little-Known Group Claims a Victory on Immigration (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=113489&postcount=730) By ROBERT PEAR (rpear@nytimes.com) | New York Times, July 15, 2007
How Conservatives Enhanced Online Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=98681&postcount=598) - Talk Radio Blends With Blog Postings To Boost Message By JUNE KRONHOLZ (june.kronholz@wsj.com ) and AMY SCHATZ (Amy.Schatz@wsj.com) | The Wall Street Journal, July 3, 2007
Immigration bill ignites grass-roots fire (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=89612&postcount=461) The conservative group NumbersUSA has seen its numbers skyrocket. Activists pressure wavering senators By Nicole Gaouette (nicole.gaouette@latimes.com) | Times Staff Writer, June 24, 2007
Grass Roots Roared and Immigration Plan Collapsed By JULIA PRESTON (juliapreston@nytimes.com) | New York Times, June 10, 2007: 1 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=80626&postcount=203), 2 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=80627&postcount=204)
How Conservatives Enhanced Online Voice (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=98681&postcount=598) - Talk Radio Blends With Blog Postings To Boost Message By JUNE KRONHOLZ (june.kronholz@wsj.com ) and AMY SCHATZ (Amy.Schatz@wsj.com) | The Wall Street Journal, July 3, 2007
Immigration bill ignites grass-roots fire (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=89612&postcount=461) The conservative group NumbersUSA has seen its numbers skyrocket. Activists pressure wavering senators By Nicole Gaouette (nicole.gaouette@latimes.com) | Times Staff Writer, June 24, 2007
Grass Roots Roared and Immigration Plan Collapsed By JULIA PRESTON (juliapreston@nytimes.com) | New York Times, June 10, 2007: 1 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=80626&postcount=203), 2 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=80627&postcount=204)
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24fps
02-08 11:23 PM
wow!!
after reading all this i think its best that i land up marrying an american/european girl , atleast they dont have all this inlaw/dowry crap going on
and then i'll get my GC taken care off as well ;) :D
after reading all this i think its best that i land up marrying an american/european girl , atleast they dont have all this inlaw/dowry crap going on
and then i'll get my GC taken care off as well ;) :D
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GIC
01-14 12:57 AM
PD : OCT 2003
EB2 RIR
State: Boston, MA
45 Day Letter : Not Received
EB2 RIR
State: Boston, MA
45 Day Letter : Not Received
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purgan
08-17 11:29 PM
grupak/mirage/pani6
i support your efforts and have printed out and sent letters to the people mentioned. Momentum for release of information should build up even if we have 50-100 letters from affected people...otherwise people won't know of EB-3 IND's plight.
I suppose we should followup with phone calls in 15 days to cement our request. We should have a poll on who all has sent the letter and made the call.
i support your efforts and have printed out and sent letters to the people mentioned. Momentum for release of information should build up even if we have 50-100 letters from affected people...otherwise people won't know of EB-3 IND's plight.
I suppose we should followup with phone calls in 15 days to cement our request. We should have a poll on who all has sent the letter and made the call.
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susie
07-15 11:30 AM
1 of 2 posts
Default No Protection for Nonimmigrant Children Because of the Age-Out Problem
No Protection for Nonimmigrant Children Because of the Age-Out Problem
The Impact US Immigration Laws on Children
The impact of US immigration laws on children generally is profound. This is due to the fact these laws are complex and are written substantially with adults in mind. Overall the immigrant laws try to balance various and sometimes competing aims including (but in no particular order):
* Improving the economy by providing access to skilled foreign workers and investors;
* Ensuring family unification, for citizens, permanent residents and nonimmigrant residents;
* Promoting diversity, such as through the lottery program; and
* Maintaining the security of the nation, through border controls, immigration checks etc.
This article focuses primarily on the issue of family reunification and looks at one specific area in which the US immigration system is failing; the rights of children. One of the intriguing aspects of US laws is the concept of age outs. This separates two categories of children; those under the age of 21 and those who have attained the age of 21.
For example, in relation to immigrant petitions where a family member is being sponsored, the petition may also apply to the spouse and children of the family member being sponsored, but only where the children are under 21 years of age. Unfortunately, immigrant visa processing can take many years depending on the category of sponsorship and, while the petition is pending, many children age out (turn 21 and are removed from the pending petition). This results in situations where siblings are split because the younger ones can immigrate by the time the petition is processed (because they are still under 21), but the older siblings cannot (because they turned 21 while the immigrant petition was pending). The Child Status Protection Act of 2002 aims to address this issue, but does not deal with all circumstances and is not always appropriately implemented causing many families to split.
Another example, and which this article focuses on, relates to nonimmigrant visa holders. Many nonimmigrant visa categories enable the foreign national (�alien�) visa holder to bring their family with them, including their spouse and children (who are under 21). A child could come to the USA, including when they are babies, be brought up in the USA but when they reach 21, unless they have another right to remain in the country, they are forced to go to their country of citizenship or any other country willing to invite them. However, they would have to leave their home and their family in the USA.
Children as Derivative Nonimmigrant Visa Holders with no Direct Path to Permanent Residency
US immigration laws enable many aliens to come to the USA for various purposes. This includes, but is not limited to:
* Investing in the USA, either directly through an E2 visa or through an expansion of a non-US business into the USA through an L1 visa (which enables intercompany transferees);
* Employment opportunities, so US employers could petition an alien on a nonimmigrant basis (for example H-1B (specialty occupations), H-1B1 (Chile/Singapore Free Trade Agreement) and H-1C (nurses)) or multinational businesses with US operations could transfer an alien to its operations in the USA through an L1 visa;
* Aliens with extraordinary ability or achievement through an O1 visa and other workers to assist in the performance of O1 workers through an O2 visa; and
* Religious workers through an R-1 visa.
The above examples are (non-exhaustive) examples of visas on which aliens enter and reside in the USA for a long-term basis. Such nonimmigrant visa holders may also bring their spouse and/or children with them as nonimmigrant holders. These visas for spouses and children are known as �derivative� visas and are valid for as long as the �principal� visa is valid. For example, if an H-1B employee loses their job without getting a new job, not only do they lose their visa status but so do the derivative visa holders.
At first glance this seems to be a reasonable state of affairs. However, there is a unique, but not uncommon, problem that results from �aging out,� i.e. where children who were under 21 come to the USA but lose their derivative visa status on their 21st birthday. They must leave the USA, in effect their home, unless they have another basis to stay home. They will also be split from their Parents and younger siblings who will be subject to same problem when they turn 21, unless of course they were born in the USA in which case they are US citizens (this right does not apply to the children of any person in the USA in the capacity of a foreign diplomat).
Jack, Mary and Sundeep
Consider this. Two children, Jack and Sundeep, come to the USA from the UK as children, because their respective parents are nonimmigrant visa holders. They have no choice in the matter because separation from their families is clearly not an option.
Jack lives in Detroit, Michigan and lived there ever since he arrived in the USA as a derivative visa holder during his kindergarten years. Sundeep lives in Long Island, New York and arrived in the USA as a derivative visa holder when he was 13. Jack and Sundeep both went to high school in their local areas. Jack went to a State funded school and Sundeep went to a privately-funded school. Both Jack and Sundeep have fully established their lives in the USA.
Jack remembers only his US life since he came at such a young age. He embraces his new life, develops friendships and fully integrates into US society by being schooled under the US system. He has an American accent since he was five. Culturally, he is American in every way. He loves his Pizza, hangs out with his school friends, and loves watching films and playing sports. He does very in school. He maintains a 4.0 GPA, is captain of the football team has been elected class President. He aspires to go to university. He wants in particular to go to the University of Michigan and play for the Michigan Wolverines. He is smart enough and good enough to do both.
Sundeep came to the USA much later. He has clear memories of his life in the UK. At first he found it very difficult to adjust to the new system. He had no friends and had to work hard to build friends. He loves soccer and was a West Ham supporter in the UK. He continues to be so. However, people aren�t into soccer in his school. However, by the time he turns 15, Sundeep has made a lot of effort to change. He is fully comfortable with the school system, has grown to understand and love basketball and football, and has made many friends. He is an above average student academically, but does not really have any aspirations to go to university.
Jack sees himself as American in every way. Sundeep also sees himself as an American but realizes and appreciates he has some differences giving him a unique US-UK-Indian cultural identity. Both fully support America in every way including singing the national anthem whenever the opportunity arises such as in school.
Jack also has younger sister, Mary. She was born in the USA and so has a constitutional (14th Amendment) based right to US citizenship. However both siblings have very different rights. When Jack turns 18 he can�t vote, but Mary can vote when she turns 18. Jack can�t join the military, but Mary can. It�s very strange how two people brought up in the same environment can be subject to very different treatment.
Limited Solutions to Aging Out
Adjustment to Permanent Residency Status
The age out problem can be partly circumvented in various but specific ways. However, this means children who have been in the USA for long periods before turning 21 can be subject to very different treatment, simply based on the type of visa their Parent(s) entered the USA on and the type of visa they currently hold.
For example L1 visa holders and employee visa holders may adjust their status to permanent residency. Their employer may later sponsor them for a new employment-based immigrant visa and once this is processed an employee may adjust, with his or her spouse and children (under 21) to permanent resident status.
Most E-2 visa holders do not have a basis to convert to permanent residency. One rare exception may be where the business expands to an investment value of $500,000 in low employment areas or $1million in all other areas and has 10 permanent employees comprised of US citizens and/or permanent residents. In these circumstances the E-2 visa holder may convert to permanent residency on the basis of an EB-5 application. How many businesses in the USA owned by foreign national meet these criteria? Very few! Another rare exception may be where an E-2 visa holder is a single parent and marries a US citizen so that they may apply for an immigrant visa with the children as derivatives. They have to wait for the visa to be processed by the USCIS, but once approved there is no further wait required with the National Visa Center.
However, the permanent residency solution is exceptional. They do not help the children whose parents remain in nonimmigrant status. Further, even where a Parent does become a permanent resident, it does not help children who already reached 21 before an immigrant petition is approved.
Default No Protection for Nonimmigrant Children Because of the Age-Out Problem
No Protection for Nonimmigrant Children Because of the Age-Out Problem
The Impact US Immigration Laws on Children
The impact of US immigration laws on children generally is profound. This is due to the fact these laws are complex and are written substantially with adults in mind. Overall the immigrant laws try to balance various and sometimes competing aims including (but in no particular order):
* Improving the economy by providing access to skilled foreign workers and investors;
* Ensuring family unification, for citizens, permanent residents and nonimmigrant residents;
* Promoting diversity, such as through the lottery program; and
* Maintaining the security of the nation, through border controls, immigration checks etc.
This article focuses primarily on the issue of family reunification and looks at one specific area in which the US immigration system is failing; the rights of children. One of the intriguing aspects of US laws is the concept of age outs. This separates two categories of children; those under the age of 21 and those who have attained the age of 21.
For example, in relation to immigrant petitions where a family member is being sponsored, the petition may also apply to the spouse and children of the family member being sponsored, but only where the children are under 21 years of age. Unfortunately, immigrant visa processing can take many years depending on the category of sponsorship and, while the petition is pending, many children age out (turn 21 and are removed from the pending petition). This results in situations where siblings are split because the younger ones can immigrate by the time the petition is processed (because they are still under 21), but the older siblings cannot (because they turned 21 while the immigrant petition was pending). The Child Status Protection Act of 2002 aims to address this issue, but does not deal with all circumstances and is not always appropriately implemented causing many families to split.
Another example, and which this article focuses on, relates to nonimmigrant visa holders. Many nonimmigrant visa categories enable the foreign national (�alien�) visa holder to bring their family with them, including their spouse and children (who are under 21). A child could come to the USA, including when they are babies, be brought up in the USA but when they reach 21, unless they have another right to remain in the country, they are forced to go to their country of citizenship or any other country willing to invite them. However, they would have to leave their home and their family in the USA.
Children as Derivative Nonimmigrant Visa Holders with no Direct Path to Permanent Residency
US immigration laws enable many aliens to come to the USA for various purposes. This includes, but is not limited to:
* Investing in the USA, either directly through an E2 visa or through an expansion of a non-US business into the USA through an L1 visa (which enables intercompany transferees);
* Employment opportunities, so US employers could petition an alien on a nonimmigrant basis (for example H-1B (specialty occupations), H-1B1 (Chile/Singapore Free Trade Agreement) and H-1C (nurses)) or multinational businesses with US operations could transfer an alien to its operations in the USA through an L1 visa;
* Aliens with extraordinary ability or achievement through an O1 visa and other workers to assist in the performance of O1 workers through an O2 visa; and
* Religious workers through an R-1 visa.
The above examples are (non-exhaustive) examples of visas on which aliens enter and reside in the USA for a long-term basis. Such nonimmigrant visa holders may also bring their spouse and/or children with them as nonimmigrant holders. These visas for spouses and children are known as �derivative� visas and are valid for as long as the �principal� visa is valid. For example, if an H-1B employee loses their job without getting a new job, not only do they lose their visa status but so do the derivative visa holders.
At first glance this seems to be a reasonable state of affairs. However, there is a unique, but not uncommon, problem that results from �aging out,� i.e. where children who were under 21 come to the USA but lose their derivative visa status on their 21st birthday. They must leave the USA, in effect their home, unless they have another basis to stay home. They will also be split from their Parents and younger siblings who will be subject to same problem when they turn 21, unless of course they were born in the USA in which case they are US citizens (this right does not apply to the children of any person in the USA in the capacity of a foreign diplomat).
Jack, Mary and Sundeep
Consider this. Two children, Jack and Sundeep, come to the USA from the UK as children, because their respective parents are nonimmigrant visa holders. They have no choice in the matter because separation from their families is clearly not an option.
Jack lives in Detroit, Michigan and lived there ever since he arrived in the USA as a derivative visa holder during his kindergarten years. Sundeep lives in Long Island, New York and arrived in the USA as a derivative visa holder when he was 13. Jack and Sundeep both went to high school in their local areas. Jack went to a State funded school and Sundeep went to a privately-funded school. Both Jack and Sundeep have fully established their lives in the USA.
Jack remembers only his US life since he came at such a young age. He embraces his new life, develops friendships and fully integrates into US society by being schooled under the US system. He has an American accent since he was five. Culturally, he is American in every way. He loves his Pizza, hangs out with his school friends, and loves watching films and playing sports. He does very in school. He maintains a 4.0 GPA, is captain of the football team has been elected class President. He aspires to go to university. He wants in particular to go to the University of Michigan and play for the Michigan Wolverines. He is smart enough and good enough to do both.
Sundeep came to the USA much later. He has clear memories of his life in the UK. At first he found it very difficult to adjust to the new system. He had no friends and had to work hard to build friends. He loves soccer and was a West Ham supporter in the UK. He continues to be so. However, people aren�t into soccer in his school. However, by the time he turns 15, Sundeep has made a lot of effort to change. He is fully comfortable with the school system, has grown to understand and love basketball and football, and has made many friends. He is an above average student academically, but does not really have any aspirations to go to university.
Jack sees himself as American in every way. Sundeep also sees himself as an American but realizes and appreciates he has some differences giving him a unique US-UK-Indian cultural identity. Both fully support America in every way including singing the national anthem whenever the opportunity arises such as in school.
Jack also has younger sister, Mary. She was born in the USA and so has a constitutional (14th Amendment) based right to US citizenship. However both siblings have very different rights. When Jack turns 18 he can�t vote, but Mary can vote when she turns 18. Jack can�t join the military, but Mary can. It�s very strange how two people brought up in the same environment can be subject to very different treatment.
Limited Solutions to Aging Out
Adjustment to Permanent Residency Status
The age out problem can be partly circumvented in various but specific ways. However, this means children who have been in the USA for long periods before turning 21 can be subject to very different treatment, simply based on the type of visa their Parent(s) entered the USA on and the type of visa they currently hold.
For example L1 visa holders and employee visa holders may adjust their status to permanent residency. Their employer may later sponsor them for a new employment-based immigrant visa and once this is processed an employee may adjust, with his or her spouse and children (under 21) to permanent resident status.
Most E-2 visa holders do not have a basis to convert to permanent residency. One rare exception may be where the business expands to an investment value of $500,000 in low employment areas or $1million in all other areas and has 10 permanent employees comprised of US citizens and/or permanent residents. In these circumstances the E-2 visa holder may convert to permanent residency on the basis of an EB-5 application. How many businesses in the USA owned by foreign national meet these criteria? Very few! Another rare exception may be where an E-2 visa holder is a single parent and marries a US citizen so that they may apply for an immigrant visa with the children as derivatives. They have to wait for the visa to be processed by the USCIS, but once approved there is no further wait required with the National Visa Center.
However, the permanent residency solution is exceptional. They do not help the children whose parents remain in nonimmigrant status. Further, even where a Parent does become a permanent resident, it does not help children who already reached 21 before an immigrant petition is approved.
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trueguy
12-17 02:27 AM
Pappu,
The data from following thread can be used for this purpose:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20798
Thanks.
The data from following thread can be used for this purpose:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20798
Thanks.
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chandsri81
04-25 08:52 AM
Hi
I just applied for a mortgage from BOA. The loan officer did not recognize what AOS was and asked me for an H1B - which has expired.
I explained about AOS and EAD and told her I could give the I-485 receipt, and she took in my application.
But I'm worried that my loan will be denied after underwriting - my closing is on 5/26 and I probably will not hear from the bank until second week of may.
Does anyone know of Banks in MA that give loans to EAD?
Chandana
I just applied for a mortgage from BOA. The loan officer did not recognize what AOS was and asked me for an H1B - which has expired.
I explained about AOS and EAD and told her I could give the I-485 receipt, and she took in my application.
But I'm worried that my loan will be denied after underwriting - my closing is on 5/26 and I probably will not hear from the bank until second week of may.
Does anyone know of Banks in MA that give loans to EAD?
Chandana
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sriswam
09-11 03:17 PM
Just put in my humble $100 contribution for the rally.
You guys have a good thing going. I just the love the selfless spirit and patience in this group. All the very best.
-Sriswam
You guys have a good thing going. I just the love the selfless spirit and patience in this group. All the very best.
-Sriswam
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mrdelhiite
06-21 12:50 PM
search "Cohen & Grisby PERM " in youtube :(
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yabadaba
07-11 12:04 PM
I am guessing that this is a move to allocate more numbers to China-EB2 applicants since both India/China EB2 may move together.They want to get as much diversity as possible.
I agree with nixtor that EB2 India will retrogress soon before oct-08.
eb2 china was at jan2006 for a while. this will be the first time that they will be moving beyond jan 2006.
I agree with nixtor that EB2 India will retrogress soon before oct-08.
eb2 china was at jan2006 for a while. this will be the first time that they will be moving beyond jan 2006.
saimrathi
08-10 11:42 AM
No checks cashed for us yet.. check my signature for details..
We still haven't got ours, wondering if others have got it or are still waiting like us. No info on check cashed too.
We still haven't got ours, wondering if others have got it or are still waiting like us. No info on check cashed too.
vedicman
05-03 01:16 PM
Thanks, we expect some of the offices will say this. There can be lot of answers to this question. One way to respond is -
"For last 10 years there has been no High-skilled immigration bill passed by the Congress. The world has changed in last 10 years. I understand that the Senator is a champion for creating more jobs in America. Employment based green cards will create jobs in America. I want to start my own company and hire people in America. But I cannot do that if I don't have a green card.
I would sincerely request you to please convey to the Senator if he would consider supporting some version of the immigration bill
giving more weight to green cards and creating jobs in America, or maybe the Senator could lead the effort for improving the proposal"
Please always end the call on a cordial note thanking the Staff member.
This makes perfect sense, and thanks for the suggestion, it definitely came to use when I called the office today.
When my statement was put in this angle, Sen. Brown, Sen Greg, Sen McConnell's office took note of it, and thanked me. I told them that immigration is being held hostage with words like amnesty, and if such rhetoric is taken out, common solutions can be found between reps and dems.
"For last 10 years there has been no High-skilled immigration bill passed by the Congress. The world has changed in last 10 years. I understand that the Senator is a champion for creating more jobs in America. Employment based green cards will create jobs in America. I want to start my own company and hire people in America. But I cannot do that if I don't have a green card.
I would sincerely request you to please convey to the Senator if he would consider supporting some version of the immigration bill
giving more weight to green cards and creating jobs in America, or maybe the Senator could lead the effort for improving the proposal"
Please always end the call on a cordial note thanking the Staff member.
This makes perfect sense, and thanks for the suggestion, it definitely came to use when I called the office today.
When my statement was put in this angle, Sen. Brown, Sen Greg, Sen McConnell's office took note of it, and thanked me. I told them that immigration is being held hostage with words like amnesty, and if such rhetoric is taken out, common solutions can be found between reps and dems.
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