gsc999
02-11 09:47 PM
****btw i may be saying things at a wrong time..at this point any effort seems to be a good effort so i will tag along..****
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Thanks for your support. As you probably might have realized, we feed off each other's enthusiasm, this is a truly grass root effort.
Cheers
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Thanks for your support. As you probably might have realized, we feed off each other's enthusiasm, this is a truly grass root effort.
Cheers
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knnmbd
07-17 03:38 PM
Do you guys think its worthwhile to go back instead of trying waiting for the retrogression to end. From the looks of it, i doubt there is any chance of an immigration bill before the elections. if there is no bill then we will end up waiting for 8-10 years for the dates to be current.
if they remove the US masters from the quota, imagine the rush it will cause in the universities, effectively it will imply that you will get a green card after you study for 2 years in US. take a 20-40k loan and get a GC. There is no country quota for F1. i had friends who were rejected for F1 because they were 'potential immigrants' wonder how this theme will play out in future.
from this shore returning back seems to be an alternative worth considering...or maybe its just todays depression talking.
IF the U.S Master's exception goes through, its pretty obvious that the DOS will tighten the screws on F1 Visa approvals by a magnitude of 100(unless F1 is made a dual intent visa... and that's like asking for the sky), and also USCIS will make in close to impossible to change non-immigrant visas status to F1( from say H1B). So it’s more than the 20K to get ahead of the line. The only benefit will be for folks already with a U.S Master's or it will be a new rat hole, fighting the Consulates/USCIS for F1 status.
if they remove the US masters from the quota, imagine the rush it will cause in the universities, effectively it will imply that you will get a green card after you study for 2 years in US. take a 20-40k loan and get a GC. There is no country quota for F1. i had friends who were rejected for F1 because they were 'potential immigrants' wonder how this theme will play out in future.
from this shore returning back seems to be an alternative worth considering...or maybe its just todays depression talking.
IF the U.S Master's exception goes through, its pretty obvious that the DOS will tighten the screws on F1 Visa approvals by a magnitude of 100(unless F1 is made a dual intent visa... and that's like asking for the sky), and also USCIS will make in close to impossible to change non-immigrant visas status to F1( from say H1B). So it’s more than the 20K to get ahead of the line. The only benefit will be for folks already with a U.S Master's or it will be a new rat hole, fighting the Consulates/USCIS for F1 status.
asdcrajnet
07-05 07:51 AM
Just talked to a USCIS customer representative
my application is still not in the system. My application reached USCIS in June 27th. I told her that it reached on June 21st....I think I could give it a try on July 12th...
She also said I will get a response(Receipt Notice or the application sent back) in 4 weeks time.
my application is still not in the system. My application reached USCIS in June 27th. I told her that it reached on June 21st....I think I could give it a try on July 12th...
She also said I will get a response(Receipt Notice or the application sent back) in 4 weeks time.
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drirshad
11-24 07:09 PM
It is one way to reduce the budget deficit, each of us will be burning away $700- every year per head for AP + EAD renewal with close to a million applicants go do the maths.
And AP/EAD renewal cannot start before 120 days so that time period every year for at least 3 years they are gonna laugh their guts out.
And we thought we achieved a big feat with the July fiasco ......
And AP/EAD renewal cannot start before 120 days so that time period every year for at least 3 years they are gonna laugh their guts out.
And we thought we achieved a big feat with the July fiasco ......
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stucklabor
03-17 09:33 AM
see the link
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:105:./temp/~bd3JRR::
So, we should fight for this bill since it does not deal with the controversial guest worker program.
Great work, Zheng0821. This is a great backup vehicle for EB provisions.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d109:105:./temp/~bd3JRR::
So, we should fight for this bill since it does not deal with the controversial guest worker program.
Great work, Zheng0821. This is a great backup vehicle for EB provisions.
saimrathi
07-05 08:18 AM
Isn't that good news? Atleast we wont have to redo the medical exams if that were true.. Or do you think this is a strategic move by USCIS to be immune from any lawsuits?
Hi guys,
I have just called the USCIS. They told me that the applications will not be rejected but just put on hold until our visa numbers will be avialiable ifor the nerw FY 2008.
In addition she told me that the Nebraska office is sending back the filing receipt to the applicants which it should not affect our h1-b visa status in case we are going to travel.
For the last part I do not believe her. Is there anyone else that can confirm that ?
Thank you.
Andrea
Hi guys,
I have just called the USCIS. They told me that the applications will not be rejected but just put on hold until our visa numbers will be avialiable ifor the nerw FY 2008.
In addition she told me that the Nebraska office is sending back the filing receipt to the applicants which it should not affect our h1-b visa status in case we are going to travel.
For the last part I do not believe her. Is there anyone else that can confirm that ?
Thank you.
Andrea
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BharatPremi
09-20 12:34 PM
Hello guys!
I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?
I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:
1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.
2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.
Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.
So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.
I would give some days to Attendees and particularly to IV core team to analyze the rally events, meetings in their entirty and come up with the conclusions mainly for 3 things. And I request everybody to funnel data to core team centrally and the same way conclusion and future action list funnelled to members.
- What we could REALLY achieve
- How loud we could be heard
- Any potential and positive impact in near future?
- Based on all of above making near future strategy
Note: One thing I want to bring everybody's attention that from November Elections will slowly be given priority by every media and so we may have to come up with careful strategy not having any conflict with election realted major events.
I wanted to volunteer a thought that had been in my head, so I am basically thinking out loud here for a bit, just throwing this out there for your guidance, tell me if you think this is too aggressive, or even premature?
I think we need another rally before the end of the year. There are 2 reasons:
1- Presidential campaigns: After this Fall, presidential campaigns will be in full swing, and thus commanding all the attention of Congress, the media and the American public.
2- Memory: People's memories are short. Now that we have the attention of the media and Capitol Hill, wouldn't it make sense that this is the time to redouble our efforts and push harder? If we wait, the iron might just cool off.
Having said that, and as we know, a rally means a lot of money, a lot of work, a lot of dedication to organize. Yet, no one said our struggle was easy, and other people and groups who have gone through tough struggles have had to go through extraordinary lengths to achieve their goals.
So, if we were to hypothetically hold a second rally this Fall, we could go for the "low-hanging fruit", i.e. we can hold the rally where the most of us live, such as Silicon Valley (and we know those folks really come through), we can plan to reach attendance to this event in the tens of thousands. I know we might not have enough time, and the people who worked so hard on the DC rally are probably exhausted. But, what if we just focus on an area where there are a LOT of us, and do a "no-frills" rally? Just get the police permits and show up. Our numbers will do the rest.
I would give some days to Attendees and particularly to IV core team to analyze the rally events, meetings in their entirty and come up with the conclusions mainly for 3 things. And I request everybody to funnel data to core team centrally and the same way conclusion and future action list funnelled to members.
- What we could REALLY achieve
- How loud we could be heard
- Any potential and positive impact in near future?
- Based on all of above making near future strategy
Note: One thing I want to bring everybody's attention that from November Elections will slowly be given priority by every media and so we may have to come up with careful strategy not having any conflict with election realted major events.
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migboy
07-20 01:32 AM
I agree 100 %. But even if the officer wants to know about out I 140, it wud be just a 1 min process for them as they can check if a recipt was generated based on the names.
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Anyways since there are so many hundreds of people who filed I 140 in the recent days, I believe some alternative from USCIS wud show up in the next few days .......
Agree.. Any idea if Service Centers will entertain queries for receipt number in person? I'm not that far from TX service center in Dallas. Might just drive up there to find out sometime midweek if there is no guidance from USCIS by then!
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Anyways since there are so many hundreds of people who filed I 140 in the recent days, I believe some alternative from USCIS wud show up in the next few days .......
Agree.. Any idea if Service Centers will entertain queries for receipt number in person? I'm not that far from TX service center in Dallas. Might just drive up there to find out sometime midweek if there is no guidance from USCIS by then!
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Murthy
01-26 04:17 PM
I tried last year for my daughter.They will not issue SSN for child Alliens.I have argued showing 20 C.F.R. � 422.104(a)(3).There is no use.I got for my wife only with EAD.
In the SSN application, it says
If you check "Legal Alien Not Allowed to Work," you must provide a document from a U.S.
Federal, State, or local government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for the U.S. government benefit. [B][B]NOTE: Not all U.S.State or local benefits are acceptable for non-work SSN purposes. Contact SSA to see if your reason qualifies.
If you check "Other," you must provide a document from the U.S. government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for a Federal benefit except for the number.
I have shown stimulus payment document that says you must have SSN for getting stimulus payment.They didnot accept. Gov want to avoid H4s.purposefully they added SSN requirement.
One of friend told they give SSN provided child has some state ID card.But state ID cannot be issued untill 16 years age for PA state.If some one got SSN without EAD for H4 kindly post here it is very useful for H4s.
thanks
murthy
In the SSN application, it says
If you check "Legal Alien Not Allowed to Work," you must provide a document from a U.S.
Federal, State, or local government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for the U.S. government benefit. [B][B]NOTE: Not all U.S.State or local benefits are acceptable for non-work SSN purposes. Contact SSA to see if your reason qualifies.
If you check "Other," you must provide a document from the U.S. government agency that explains why you need a Social Security number and that you meet all of the requirements for a Federal benefit except for the number.
I have shown stimulus payment document that says you must have SSN for getting stimulus payment.They didnot accept. Gov want to avoid H4s.purposefully they added SSN requirement.
One of friend told they give SSN provided child has some state ID card.But state ID cannot be issued untill 16 years age for PA state.If some one got SSN without EAD for H4 kindly post here it is very useful for H4s.
thanks
murthy
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hindu_king
05-29 05:10 PM
Looks like the French felt like Indians are 3rd world country people and thats how they treated them. Reality is France is the newest third world country. While there are less slums in India now than 10 years ago, it's the opposite in France. They have more slums than ever and their work culture is pathetic. 35 work hours/week, 3 months vacation, endless sick days and no one can get fired. all they do is complain, riot in the streets, burn cars in suburbs. The Champs-�lys�es type of fancy France is only 10% and the remaining 90% is a sh*t-hole.
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franklin
09-21 08:53 PM
Hi Franklin,
Thanks much for your valuable feedback, and I agree to your points and suggestions.
Regards,
IK
You do realize I will hold you to your last point now though :)
To the people that did attend, I re-iterate, please don't judge people who post their honest opinion. We should take this opportunity to learn why people choose not to come so we can improve our strategy for next time.
Thanks much for your valuable feedback, and I agree to your points and suggestions.
Regards,
IK
You do realize I will hold you to your last point now though :)
To the people that did attend, I re-iterate, please don't judge people who post their honest opinion. We should take this opportunity to learn why people choose not to come so we can improve our strategy for next time.
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ianlock
09-17 04:49 PM
oh.... i see....thats how it works...
got it
thanks.
I just wonder how long it will be untill EB3 ROW is current. ???
got it
thanks.
I just wonder how long it will be untill EB3 ROW is current. ???
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AllVNeedGcPc
05-20 06:07 PM
There is no mention of legal EB immigration :(
Response follows:
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Thank you for contacting me regarding our nation's immigration system. I appreciate the benefit of your views on this important issue.
Our current immigration system is broken, which is why I believe Congress should work to pass bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform. Comprehensive immigration reform should include policies to secure our nation's borders, curb future illegal immigration, establish an effective employer verification system and find a practical solution for the millions of illegal immigrants currently residing in the U.S.
I do not believe that illegal immigrants should gain an unfair advantage from their actions. Any effort to earn legal status must include paying back taxes, a fine or penalty and taking steps to learn English. Reform should also not penalize those individuals who have followed the law and are here legally.
On April 23, 2010, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed into law Arizona State Bill 1070, which grants broad powers to local law enforcement officials to determine and request proof of legal status of anyone suspected of violating federal immigration laws. The enactment of this new law is yet another sign that the federal government needs to act to fix our broken immigration system rather than allowing for a state-by-state patchwork of laws and ordinances. I also believe Arizona's law raises civil rights concerns, fails to recognize the economic contributions of legal immigrant workers, and harms our nation's ability to attract entrepreneurs from around the world who create jobs here in the United States.
Our nation faces many tough challenges. Immigration reform is a complicated and difficult issue but the current system is not working. We must put our differences aside to create a better system. Again, thank you for writing. As we move forward in the 111th Congress, please continue to contact me with your opinions and concerns.
Sincerely,
MARK R. WARNER
United States Senator
Response follows:
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Thank you for contacting me regarding our nation's immigration system. I appreciate the benefit of your views on this important issue.
Our current immigration system is broken, which is why I believe Congress should work to pass bipartisan, comprehensive immigration reform. Comprehensive immigration reform should include policies to secure our nation's borders, curb future illegal immigration, establish an effective employer verification system and find a practical solution for the millions of illegal immigrants currently residing in the U.S.
I do not believe that illegal immigrants should gain an unfair advantage from their actions. Any effort to earn legal status must include paying back taxes, a fine or penalty and taking steps to learn English. Reform should also not penalize those individuals who have followed the law and are here legally.
On April 23, 2010, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed into law Arizona State Bill 1070, which grants broad powers to local law enforcement officials to determine and request proof of legal status of anyone suspected of violating federal immigration laws. The enactment of this new law is yet another sign that the federal government needs to act to fix our broken immigration system rather than allowing for a state-by-state patchwork of laws and ordinances. I also believe Arizona's law raises civil rights concerns, fails to recognize the economic contributions of legal immigrant workers, and harms our nation's ability to attract entrepreneurs from around the world who create jobs here in the United States.
Our nation faces many tough challenges. Immigration reform is a complicated and difficult issue but the current system is not working. We must put our differences aside to create a better system. Again, thank you for writing. As we move forward in the 111th Congress, please continue to contact me with your opinions and concerns.
Sincerely,
MARK R. WARNER
United States Senator
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walking_dude
10-05 08:48 AM
Troy is fine with me. Unless someone has a pressing reason (other than geographical location) lets stick to the time and venue.
Please update the first post with venue and timings in big and bold letters ( I used 'Arial Black', Size 5, Bold below)
IV MI Meet
Location : Troy Recreation Center, Troy ( Livernois b/n Big Beaver and Wattles)
Address : 3179 Livernois, Troy, MI 48083 ( courtesy Google)
Time : 10:00 am sharp ( no ISTs)
Agenda : Discuss future actions - Lawmaker meetings, publicity campaign, getting attorneys to answer GC questions pro bono etc.
Ok so we have a place in mind?
I suggest Troy. It will be center to all?
On 10-20 at 10:00 Am we can meet at Troy recreation center. This is on Livernois road, between Big beaver and 17 mile(wattles).
Or if you have more fitting place in mind, please suggest.
All that can make it, please update your personal information on your account here.
Please update the first post with venue and timings in big and bold letters ( I used 'Arial Black', Size 5, Bold below)
IV MI Meet
Location : Troy Recreation Center, Troy ( Livernois b/n Big Beaver and Wattles)
Address : 3179 Livernois, Troy, MI 48083 ( courtesy Google)
Time : 10:00 am sharp ( no ISTs)
Agenda : Discuss future actions - Lawmaker meetings, publicity campaign, getting attorneys to answer GC questions pro bono etc.
Ok so we have a place in mind?
I suggest Troy. It will be center to all?
On 10-20 at 10:00 Am we can meet at Troy recreation center. This is on Livernois road, between Big beaver and 17 mile(wattles).
Or if you have more fitting place in mind, please suggest.
All that can make it, please update your personal information on your account here.
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bkhorrami
07-04 06:45 PM
Good News indeed, but to be frank it just doesn�t excite me even a bit. After being stuck for over five years and getting nothing at the end, I reserve the right for myself to be skeptical and pessimistic!! :-( --Sorry
There are certainly anti-immigration groups like IEEE/US and others who will use every weapon at their disposal to sabotage legislations like SKIL BILL etc., but the reality is that US economy is increasingly becoming dependent on foreign-born skilled workers and by gradual exit of baby-boom generation out of economy this trend will accelerate.
I hope Congressman Senssenbrener doesn�t dismiss the legislation. It is just unfair to link the immigration issues of Merit-Based Immigration Applicants to border security.
Please let us know what we could do to help the process.
Regards,
There are certainly anti-immigration groups like IEEE/US and others who will use every weapon at their disposal to sabotage legislations like SKIL BILL etc., but the reality is that US economy is increasingly becoming dependent on foreign-born skilled workers and by gradual exit of baby-boom generation out of economy this trend will accelerate.
I hope Congressman Senssenbrener doesn�t dismiss the legislation. It is just unfair to link the immigration issues of Merit-Based Immigration Applicants to border security.
Please let us know what we could do to help the process.
Regards,
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brb2
09-27 09:01 AM
Total immigration numbers, not employment. The direct references in the report are:
Figure 3 Page CRS 9.
For the 2005 numbers, I approximated, using Appendix A on page CRS-22, which covered the top 50 countries sending immigrants and that was around 87% of the total.
Sorry - I can't currently access the report you quote your oringinal figures from at the beginning of your quote. Are these numbers of total immigration, or immigration in the highly skilled category?
Figure 3 Page CRS 9.
For the 2005 numbers, I approximated, using Appendix A on page CRS-22, which covered the top 50 countries sending immigrants and that was around 87% of the total.
Sorry - I can't currently access the report you quote your oringinal figures from at the beginning of your quote. Are these numbers of total immigration, or immigration in the highly skilled category?
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boreal
07-01 05:45 PM
I loved Fragomen. Very responsive and are working over weekends to expedite applications..
I highly recommend them.
I second this. Fragomen is excellent, working over the weekends too..couldnt believe my ears this morning when they called me and asked me to come over to sign the completed applications for me and my wife. I kinda resigned myself to the fact that these big firms will take a while to process these applications and wasnt expecting anything from them atleast till the third week of July.
Just amazing firm...
I highly recommend them.
I second this. Fragomen is excellent, working over the weekends too..couldnt believe my ears this morning when they called me and asked me to come over to sign the completed applications for me and my wife. I kinda resigned myself to the fact that these big firms will take a while to process these applications and wasnt expecting anything from them atleast till the third week of July.
Just amazing firm...
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msyedy
05-31 03:04 PM
Yes that is true. They are lobbying strongly for H1b though they are supporting GC increases. Actually with H1b you can stay unlimited years if you apply gc. So there is no urgency for corporations to resolve the issue. They do not have fear of losing you as you are going to stay in USA until you get green card
You are right, but they do have some or may be a little more interest in the GC process too.
1) Because they are paying a lot of money to these consultant companies which they want to reduce.
2)Come to wall street, you will see so many consultants that are needed here to keep this economy running. A high number of H1-B will definitly reduce the price but still they will not get what they want meaning a permanent employee on a lesser pay. Tech companies cannot hire a person permanently because he is stuck with his employer who has filed his GC.
The companies cant continue to pay a lot to these consultanting companies.
Secondly this country should attract good brains, who might not want to come here. Believe me my friends in india are happy there and do not want to come here. They are living in there own homes with families, enjoying every part of our indian culture and are happy.
If nothing really works out here I will be looking out for an oppurtunity back home.
You are right, but they do have some or may be a little more interest in the GC process too.
1) Because they are paying a lot of money to these consultant companies which they want to reduce.
2)Come to wall street, you will see so many consultants that are needed here to keep this economy running. A high number of H1-B will definitly reduce the price but still they will not get what they want meaning a permanent employee on a lesser pay. Tech companies cannot hire a person permanently because he is stuck with his employer who has filed his GC.
The companies cant continue to pay a lot to these consultanting companies.
Secondly this country should attract good brains, who might not want to come here. Believe me my friends in india are happy there and do not want to come here. They are living in there own homes with families, enjoying every part of our indian culture and are happy.
If nothing really works out here I will be looking out for an oppurtunity back home.
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murali3000
10-01 04:02 PM
Does any one filed saying why you need AP.
Where do you find the information where to mail you application and documents ?
I filed my I485 nebraska , do i need to send there ?
Where do you find the information where to mail you application and documents ?
I filed my I485 nebraska , do i need to send there ?
Hermione
09-21 02:52 PM
Dude is absolutely right. There is a lot of support for the cause of the undocumented. Their situation is ever more desperate, and what many people do not understand, because of their numbers and huge contribution to the economy, they pretty much hold this country hostage, because it simply will not be able to survive without them any more. This is why lawmakers are less interested in the cause of legal immigrants.
But there is a flipside to this story for us. EB immigrants can position their suggestions as a solution for the whole immigration system, and not just for helpign with the situation right now, but going into the future. How? Very simple. Increase EB quotas, exempt spouses, and repeal admissibility bars - and you will have a lot more visas left over from EB1-2-3 that go lower skilled 'other workers'. If there is no admissibility bars, they would be able to apply for CP in their countries. Not only that would help current undocumented, it will give future lower skilled worker a chance to come legally. And the best thing - no amnesty to make the antis go bananas again! Just my $0.02.
But there is a flipside to this story for us. EB immigrants can position their suggestions as a solution for the whole immigration system, and not just for helpign with the situation right now, but going into the future. How? Very simple. Increase EB quotas, exempt spouses, and repeal admissibility bars - and you will have a lot more visas left over from EB1-2-3 that go lower skilled 'other workers'. If there is no admissibility bars, they would be able to apply for CP in their countries. Not only that would help current undocumented, it will give future lower skilled worker a chance to come legally. And the best thing - no amnesty to make the antis go bananas again! Just my $0.02.
sbabunle
02-13 12:48 AM
Why dont you be the president of IV? How many hours can you
contribute...what are your suggestions to do?
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
contribute...what are your suggestions to do?
I think a change of leadership of IV is critical if we have to get anywhere. IV has not been able to achieve a single thing in all of its existence. Not a single thing, nada, zitto, zapata. Not disclosing the issues they are working on, not disclosing how the funds are distributed, not disclosing the lobbyist they are using. Who in the world calls that leadership!
That is the reason that no one wants to contribute. First get some results, show people results for what they have paid for. Then ask for more money. Most people I talk to are confident that IV will achieve nothing given their track record. I tried to convince a colleague to join IV. He bet with me that they will not be able to achieve even this filing I-485 issue. He bet that he will join and pay if they did.
I know IV works like dIVorced wIVes club and saying anything negative is taboo. Anyone saying anything negative is crushed with (p)curses. Only good mushy things are allowed here. So here it is: We will get our GCs by the end of the month. Hallelujah!
But I am writing this for the benefit of IV and please take this as constructively as you can. As a member, I have full right to suggest a change of leadership when I think it can help.
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